Report on the various lines by which a railway could be carried from London to Porth Dinllaen in north Wales, made by Charles B. Vignoles, Civil Engineer.

This material is held atArchifdy Prifysgol Bangor / Bangor University Archives

  • Reference
    • GB 222 BMSS/400
  • Dates of Creation
    • 29 November 1837

Scope and Content

It is addressed to the Commissioners for Enquiring into the best system of Railway Communications through Ireland. The document is written in a clear hand and bears evidence to the logical precision and professional ability of the great railway engineer.

i. References to general maps and detailed sections of the proposed lines. These, unfortunately, are not now incorporated in the ms - see Mr Mayhew's letter of 2 February 1929 inset

ii. Brief account of the circumstances leading up to the investigation

iii. Discussion, technical but very interesting, of the comparative difficulties of (a) the Worcester-Carno-Barmouth-Tremadic-Porthdinllaen route (b)the Wolverhampton-Bala-Dolgellau-Barmouth-Tremadoc-Porthdinllaen route

iv. Decision in favour of iii (b)

v. Discussion of a proposed route from Chester to Holyhead, with reference to a possible packet-station to Dublin at Port Wrexham or St. George's Harbour between the two Ormes (he guards himself by the remark that the bay was so styled by some and others) an emphasis on the engineering difficulties presented by the Conway estuary, the two Penmaens, and Penrhyn Park; the belief that building a second bridge over the Menai to be "too great an undertaking to be seriously contemplated", the alternative being to horse the railway carriages, one at a time, over the Suspension Bridge. He casts doubting eyes at Malltraeth Marsh, the solidity of its soil and its capacity to sustain a heavy embankment. In any case, he thinks, a railway from Llanfair to Holyhead would be to the new high road through Anglesey as th arc and chord of a circular segment

vi. Discussion of a proposed railway route from Bangor to Porthdinllaen through Caernarvon, Llandwrog and the park of Glyn llifon. Vignoles is careful to point that the London-Dublin route would be twenty miles longer than the Bala line.

vii. Merits and demerits of the suggested sites for a packet-station to Ireland. Plumps with emphasis for Porthdinllaen

viii. More detailed discussion of the Bala-Barmouth-Porthdinllaen route - surveys, gradients, engineering problems etc. Note, inter alia, his spelling of Wnion as Onion; his proposal to build at Llanelltyd a gigantic viaduct of an unprecedented height. A table of gradients from Porthdinllaen to bala and analysis of the estimated cost of building a railway along this route.

Administrative / Biographical History

In 1844 the construction of the Chester and Holyhead Railway was authorised in order to speed up communication between London and Ireland. As a result, Holyhead grew into an important port. Previously, proposals had been made for the railway route to go from Bangor to Porth Dinllaen.

For an account of the career of Charles Blacker Vignoles, 1793-1875, Civil Engineer, consult Life of C.B. Vignoles by O.J. Vignoles, 1889. There was no love lost between him and the two Stephensons. It was the elder Stephenson who, more than anyone else, put an effective damper on the porthdinllaen project; it was the younger Stephenson who discounted Vignoles' criticism of a second bridge over the Menai by actually building one in 1846-1849. For all this, Vignoles was one of the greatest of living engineers - as one proof, the railway road from Llanfair to Holyhead did, when begun in 1845, actually run along the arc described by him in 1837.

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