Mumbles Community Radio: interview entitled ‘And the next record is…’ Les Seville, Plastic Sam, Roy Shears and Tony Wynn-Jones are interviewed by Clive Saddington. These four were Swansea’s pioneering DJs. They tell of their experiences working as DJs all over South Wales, the music, the clubs and pubs they worked.

[00:02:10] Music: Public music in 20th century. [00:02:57] Personal Details: Tony Wynne-Jones (TW-J), Les Saville (LS), Plastic Sam(PS), & Roy Shears(RS), all disc jockeys: interviewed by Clive Saddington (CS), Radio Mumbles. [00:03:25] Leisure: LS: DJs originally filled in gaps between bands, at Ritz, Skewen; first local venue to have famous bands. [00:04:21] Leisure: LS: Ritz, Skewen - bingo, then local bands (Blackjacks, Smokestacks), later national - Tony Rivers & the Castaways. [00:05:21] Leisure: RS: Rolling Stones, London club, 2/6d entry (5/- for big bands, such as Geno Washington's Ram Jam Band). [00:06:04] Leisure: RS: moved to Swansea Nov '69. [00:06:20] Leisure: RS: Freshwater East Club, Pembroke. [00:06:45] Leisure: PS: started Sept '69, West Cross Country Club (now Norton House Restaurant), owned by Bateman brothers. [00:08:26] Leisure: PS: Late '60s DJ deck technology. [00:08:56] Leisure: PS: lightshow origins, strobe design, custom (home) built. [00:09:54] Leisure: TW-J: started in Kennard [?] Ballroom, Cardiff - DJ Mark Boley[?], custom twin deck. [00:10:34] Leisure: TW-J: makes own deck, for Tower Ballroom, Townhill, from Dansette player. [00:11:20] Leisure: PS: West Cross Country Club: 30/- for playing music, £1 for lights. [00:11:49] Leisure: PS: equipment, transport (bus, three trips), advice from LS. [00:12:39] Music: LS: Listen to live groups, then buy their records. [00:13:22] Music: PS: Live groups such as Stones, Manfreds: US R'n'B influence, not Top Ten. [00:14:28] Music: TW-J: career choice, and taping from radio, to save money. [00:15:16] Music: RS: has c 35k singles, various formats, few albums. [00:16:14] Music: LS: sold vinyl collection, including rare stuff, for £200. [00:17:34] Music: PS: record collection, methodology of playlists. [00:19:20] Music: PS: equipment, work methods, cabinets & cases. [00:20:34] Adverts: Adverts until 22m 23s. [00:23:07] Leisure: PS: venues, such as Pier Ballroom. [00:24:59] Leisure: PS: 1971-72 first nightclub in Swansea. [00:25:51] Leisure: LS: playlist restrictions when supporting bands, Top Rank. [00:26:25] Leisure: TW-J: resident DJ at Top Rank. [00:27:29] The Beach Boys: I Get Around. [00:28:12] Music: TW-J: meets Beach Boys. [00:28:32] Leisure: TW-J: Top Rank equipment, work methods. [00:29:38] Music: LS: soul music, Eyes of Blue (Melody Maker competition winners) influence. [00:31:01] Sam & Dave: Hold on I'm Coming. [00:31:52] Music: LS: Colston Hall, Bristol, '66, Stax tour: Booker T & the MGs, Green Onions. [00:32:48] Culture: PS: less stuff in '60s, so shock of the new greater when experienced. [00:34:11] Jane Birkin & Serge Gainesborough[?]: Je t'aime (banned by BBC, still used by RS as theme; referred to by Private Eye as Jane Firkin & Serge Trousersoff). [00:36:18] Leisure: Transport: PS used buses, then Ford Prefect van, then VW vans. [00:38:11] Leisure: TW-J: Top Rank, different nights (originator of phrase "grab a granny"), equipment kept on site. [00:39:37] Leisure: LS: transport, Ritz to UCS, Morris 1000 van, customised as trailer, then Commer, Transit. [00:41:11] Leisure: PS: transport, VW LT in 1970s, customisation. [00:42:55] Leisure: PS: custom made equipment, with LS. [00:43:56] Leisure: PS: mutual aid between DJs, making equipment. [00:44:54] Leisure: LS: bands louder, so DJs ditto, so more transport. [00:45:36] Leisure: LS: mix of different band/DJ rigs, at Ritz. [00:46:19] Leisure: PS: noise, tinnitus avoidance; monitors. [00:48:21] Leisure: TW-J: Johnny Beurling, Radio 1 Club (later Radio 1 Roadshow). [00:49:59] Crime: TW-J: Yewtree & related scandals, backs Dave Lee Travis (DLT) "100%, and I have proof of that". [00:50:22] Crime: TW-J: queries motives of some Yewtree accusers, innocent hurt (DLT "a great friend of mine"). [00:51:14] Leisure: Stuart Henry, Radio 1 DJ, illness, died of MS. [00:52:10] Leisure: LS: no regrets, 3 careers: finished in music 1980, no fun - punk era. [00:53:16] Leisure: RS: lack of technical facility & knowledge hampered career opportunities. [00:54:19] Music: RS: ahead of time, musically, cf John Peel (B52s, Rock Lobster). [00:56:28] Music: LS: rock'n'roll; little taste for contemporary music. [00:57:47] Music: TW-J: Beatles; '60s & '70s music. [00:60:20] Music: PS: the "now" has less shelf life, more disposable now, comments on TV talent shows. [00:62:02] Music: RS: DJ opinions less important than those of audience. [00:63:27] Music: Music, funk, unidentified, until end of recording.