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		<title>Comment on URIs, identity, aliases &amp; &#8220;consolidation&#8221; by Bricolage</title>
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		<description>[...] on the Linking Lives blog Pete Johnston has published an interesting discussion of some of the problems surrounding the generation of URIs from EAD data, especially with regards [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Unique Identifiers for Archives in a Linked Data World by URIs, identity, aliases &#38; &#8220;consolidation&#8221; &#124; Linking Lives</title>
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		<dc:creator>URIs, identity, aliases &#38; &#8220;consolidation&#8221; &#124; Linking Lives</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] has written a few posts recently on our efforts to improve the stability of URIs used for pages about archival resources on [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Do not underestimate cleaning your data! by URIs, identity, aliases &#38; &#8220;consolidation&#8221; &#124; Linking Lives</title>
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		<dc:creator>URIs, identity, aliases &#38; &#8220;consolidation&#8221; &#124; Linking Lives</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] has written a few posts recently on our efforts to improve the stability of URIs used for pages about archival [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on GLAM Rocks! &#8211; Libraries, Media &amp; The Semantic Web hosted by the BBC by Keynote: &#8216;From Strings to Things&#8217;, LODLAM Melbourne workshop &#124; mia ridge</title>
		<link>http://archiveshub.ac.uk/linkinglives/?p=256#comment-240</link>
		<dc:creator>Keynote: &#8216;From Strings to Things&#8217;, LODLAM Melbourne workshop &#124; mia ridge</dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on GLAM Rocks! &#8211; Libraries, Media &amp; The Semantic Web hosted by the BBC by Reading List &#124; Pearltrees</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reading List &#124; Pearltrees</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] GLAM Rocks! – Libraries, Media &amp; The Semantic Web hosted by the BBC &#124; Linking Lives I was up next, giving a whistle stop tour of UK LODLAM activities, myself being Adrian Stevenson , Senior Technical Innovations Coordinator at Mimas , University of Manchester. [...]</description>
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		<description>[...] London Semantic Web Group. I’ve written a fairly comprehensive post about the event over on the Linking Lives blog, including videos of all the talks, for those who want to read/hear more.    This entry was posted [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on GLAM Rocks! &#8211; Libraries, Media &amp; The Semantic Web hosted by the BBC by GLAM Rocks! &#8211; &#8220;Libraries, Media &#38; The Semantic Web&#8221; hosted by the BBC &#124; Linking Lives &#171; Jose Murilo&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>GLAM Rocks! &#8211; &#8220;Libraries, Media &#38; The Semantic Web&#8221; hosted by the BBC &#124; Linking Lives &#171; Jose Murilo&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on Archives &amp; Linked Data Meetup by Owen Stephens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen Stephens</dc:creator>
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		<description>Thanks for this summary Jane - very useful and interesting

The stuff on &#039;same as&#039; worries me. &quot;In a Linked Data context this [making a sameas statement] is problematic, as you are then asserting that all of the statements made by the data source you are linking to through this relationship are true&quot;

While I understand that this is the definition of OWL Sameas, I would argue here that common use has quickly overridden the strict definition, and we (and the semantic web community) will need to accept this, and move on. Even if we wished to, and we were willing to put a lot of manual effort into it, how would we ever establish that the statements someone else had made about an entity were &#039;true&#039; - truth being a slippery concept anyway.

This paper on the use of sameas http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-628/ldow2010_paper09.pdf I think summarises the issues quite well. It introduces (among a number of contexts for asserting &#039;sameness&#039;) the concept of &quot;Same Thing As But Referentially Opaque&quot; which it defines as &quot;when the two URIs do refer to the same thing, but all the properties ascribed to one URI are not necessarily accepted by the other.&quot;

The paper suggests the community might &quot;continue using owl:sameAs with a kind of ‘importer beware’ principle&quot;. The paper concludes &quot; The (ab)use of owl:sameAs in Linked Data is not a threat, it’s an opportunity.&quot;

This feels like the right attitude to me, and one that is essential to us exploiting linked data in a meaningful way. I worry that if the archive community (or any other community) don&#039;t take this opportunity, the use of linked data in the community is a nice experiment, but ultimately ends up being a way of reconfiguring an isolated silo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this summary Jane &#8211; very useful and interesting</p>
<p>The stuff on &#8216;same as&#8217; worries me. &#8220;In a Linked Data context this [making a sameas statement] is problematic, as you are then asserting that all of the statements made by the data source you are linking to through this relationship are true&#8221;</p>
<p>While I understand that this is the definition of OWL Sameas, I would argue here that common use has quickly overridden the strict definition, and we (and the semantic web community) will need to accept this, and move on. Even if we wished to, and we were willing to put a lot of manual effort into it, how would we ever establish that the statements someone else had made about an entity were &#8216;true&#8217; &#8211; truth being a slippery concept anyway.</p>
<p>This paper on the use of sameas <a href="http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-628/ldow2010_paper09.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-628/ldow2010_paper09.pdf</a> I think summarises the issues quite well. It introduces (among a number of contexts for asserting &#8216;sameness&#8217;) the concept of &#8220;Same Thing As But Referentially Opaque&#8221; which it defines as &#8220;when the two URIs do refer to the same thing, but all the properties ascribed to one URI are not necessarily accepted by the other.&#8221;</p>
<p>The paper suggests the community might &#8220;continue using owl:sameAs with a kind of ‘importer beware’ principle&#8221;. The paper concludes &#8221; The (ab)use of owl:sameAs in Linked Data is not a threat, it’s an opportunity.&#8221;</p>
<p>This feels like the right attitude to me, and one that is essential to us exploiting linked data in a meaningful way. I worry that if the archive community (or any other community) don&#8217;t take this opportunity, the use of linked data in the community is a nice experiment, but ultimately ends up being a way of reconfiguring an isolated silo.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unique Identifiers for Archives in a Linked Data World by Do not underestimate cleaning your data! &#124; Linking Lives</title>
		<link>http://archiveshub.ac.uk/linkinglives/?p=156#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Do not underestimate cleaning your data! &#124; Linking Lives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2012 14:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Archives &amp; Linked Data Meetup by Locah Linking Lives di admin &#124; regesta</title>
		<link>http://archiveshub.ac.uk/linkinglives/?p=163#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Locah Linking Lives di admin &#124; regesta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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